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peter king and other people from the intelligence community and the nsa and so forth, people are saying this is the most chatter that we've picked up since 9/1,1 actually since before 9/11. what does that mean? >> i think there are three points that need to be. one, clearly the presidential campaign of barack obama was false in saying that al qaeda was degraded two, the speech in may declaring the war on terror over was wrong. three, after benghazi, they don't want to keep the same mistake to keep americans in harm's way. four, as wes indicated, we've got good intelligence, but this is a tough, difficult business of engaging in this war on terror. the administration is taking the right kind of precautions. but we have to hold our breath and we have show we're not disengaged and that is a pattern that has to change with the u.s. government over the last couple years. >> peter brooks, is the government of pakistan or at least the secret service of pakistan giving al zawahiri all kinds of comfort and help and you think they're giving him resources for his campaign against the united states
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